NASA event at BeaveRun (Planning stages) ( **NEWS UPDATE** )

[Black396]

Just got an email from Ralph.

Looks like we will be heading out ~ noon on Friday. We'll stop at Hill Top (about 8 miles before Breezewood). It's a truck stop with quick "in and out" access to the highway, a place to catch a quick lunch (it has a Subway and slices of Pizza) and is rarely crowded. Gas is a little cheaper too!

Hit the toll road and then in from there. The toll road will be a little more expensive if you are pulling a trailer. They like to get their Xtra for the axles on the trailer. [#-o]

[janderson]

Well, I hope I got reservations at the right place.

I called the Holiday Inn that is 1.6 miles away - they wanted $99 a night [:((]

Looked further down the page and tried Conley Inn (5 miles) - ahhh perfect $64 a night for Fri & Sat, $48 for Sun [:D]

Rooms have 2 double beds so Bill and I are set.

[Black396]

Looked further down the page and tried Conley Inn (5 miles) - ahhh perfect $64 a night for Fri & Sat, $48 for Sun [:D]

Rooms have 2 double beds so Bill and I are set.

That sounds like the place. I can't remember if I asked for a military/government/BeaveRun discount or not but the $64 a night sounds right. Bill Velasco and I shared a room Friday and Saturday.

[Ebein]

Looked further down the page and tried Conley Inn (5 miles) - ahhh perfect $64 a night for Fri & Sat, $48 for Sun [:D]

Rooms have 2 double beds so Bill and I are set.

That sounds like the place. I can't remember if I asked for a military/government/BeaveRun discount or not but the $64 a night sounds right. Bill Velasco and I shared a room Friday and Saturday.


Excellent, thanks for getting the reservations James.

[Akcelr8]

Where's everyone going to meet at noon on Friday? [:-/]

[Ebein]

Where's everyone going to meet at noon on Friday? [:-/]

Sounds good to me.

[Black396]

Bill is coming up from Woodbridge. James is coming from Centreville. I haven't heard anything out of Rick Poage or John Tribble. I imagine Dave Rankin will go straight up from his place.

About the only place I can think of would be the Wendy's next to Koon's.

I'm open to suggestions.

[Jtribble]

Bill is coming up from Woodbridge. James is coming from Centreville. I haven't heard anything out of Rick Poage or John Tribble. I imagine Dave Rankin will go straight up from his place.

About the only place I can think of would be the Wendy's next to Koon's.

I'm open to suggestions.


Hey!!! I'm in.
I'll meet up with you guys on Friday!

[Black396]

Hey!!! I'm in.
I'll meet up with you guys on Friday!

You are trailering your car up right?

[C5inWV]

I probably won't get out of here until 5 PM on Friday, so I'll catch up to you at the track.
I'll look for stragglers as I go out 68 and then the turnpike.

[Black396]

I probably won't get out of here until 5 PM on Friday, so I'll catch up to you at the track.
I'll look for stragglers as I go out 68 and then the turnpike.


Sounds good. Ralph and I may be have problems with some of those hills on the turnpike.

[Black396]

Weather is looking good for the weekend. Highs in the low 80s-high 70s with evening lows of low 60s - high 50s.

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/local_index.asp?zipcode=16157&partner=accuweather

The weather for driving up and back should be pretty good also. I think it is going to be another great weekend! [:D]

[Ebein]

Weather is looking good for the weekend. Highs in the low 80s-high 70s with evening lows of low 60s - high 50s.

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/local_index.asp?zipcode=16157&partner=accuweather

The weather for driving up and back should be pretty good also. I think it is going to be another great weekend! [:D]


Mike, I still dont have a helmet, though I hope to pick one up
before spook, can you bring along an XL?

[Black396]

Mike, I still dont have a helmet, though I hope to pick one up before spook, can you bring along an XL?

One XL helmet, got it! [;)]

I don't know if we have an XL but I'll bring whatever we have.

[LilRedCorvette]

Mike, I still dont have a helmet, though I hope to pick one up before spook, can you bring along an XL?

One XL helmet, got it! [;)]

I don't know if we have an XL but I'll bring whatever we have.

Speaking of helmets (sorry to jump in on this thread), what's the smallest club loaner helmet you have? I don't think I can get around to getting one before the 9/11 oval date.

[Black396]

Speaking of helmets (sorry to jump in on this thread), what's the smallest club loaner helmet you have? I don't think I can get around to getting one before the 9/11 oval date.


I'll have to look to be sure. I know we have a medium or two. If the club doesn't have a small, I have one that you can borrow.

I wouldn't bother getting one for awhile if I was you as long as one of the club helmets fit. A good one (SA versus M) costs a nice chunk of change if you don't get it on sale.

SA is an automotive helmet (tested to withstand multiple impacts and the lining is fire retardant).

M is a motorcycle helmet (tested to withstand a single impact and the lining is NOT fire retardant).

[LilRedCorvette]

I'll have to look to be sure. I know we have a medium or two. If the club doesn't have a small, I have one that you can borrow.

I wouldn't bother getting one for awhile if I was you as long as one of the club helmets fit. A good one (SA versus M) costs a nice chunk of change if you don't get it on sale.

SA is an automotive helmet (tested to withstand multiple impacts and the lining is fire retardant).

M is a motorcycle helmet (tested to withstand a single impact and the lining is NOT fire retardant).

That's the problem, the club loaners don't really fit me very well. I really don't want a motorcycle helmet but a decent SA one. I plan on looking for a full-face one in black that is up to date NCCC standard-wise for all our events coming up next year. Was hoping to use a loaner for now until next year, but if they don't fit, they don't fit! *shrugs*

[Black396]

I've got a small that my oldest stepdaughter used. I don't normally bring it with me. I'll bring it out on the 11th and let you try it.

It's a black open face M like the other helmets but it hasn't been used much. Its more than enough for ODS if it fits right.

[wazzzup]

Good luck to all who are going this weekend. Hope you all have a great time! [:D] [;)] [B-)] Be safe, and leave all cracked fenders up there! [:D]

[LilRedCorvette]

I've got a small that my oldest stepdaughter used. I don't normally bring it with me. I'll bring it out on the 11th and let you try it.

It's a black open face M like the other helmets but it hasn't been used much. Its more than enough for ODS if it fits right.

Thanks, Mike...you da man!

[Akcelr8]

OK, here's what I've got. We're going to meet Friday, 3 September, at the Wendy's next to Koon's and depart Wendy's at 12:00 noon. If you have a Family Radio, I suggest bringing it. It helps to communicate along the way.

Here are the routes we're taking: The toll will be $8.00 (one way) for cars and $12 for us pulling trailers.

We'll take the beltway to 270 to 70 to the PA Turnpike (76) at Breezewood (Just before Breezewood, we'll stop at the truck stop at Hill Top). We'll follow the PA Turnpike to exit 13, Beaver Valley (148 miles) and take State Rt 18 north for about 8 miles then turn left onto Penndale Road and about 3 miles later we're there.

[Jtribble]

Hey!!! I'm in.
I'll meet up with you guys on Friday!

You are trailering your car up right?


Yes!!! I'll have it loaded and ready to go Thursday night.

[Black396]

Eight days and counting. [:))]

I'm really looking forward to this. We should be able to set up an area like we did at Summit the last time.

[Black396]

Latest news from BeaveRun!

The schedule has been posted for the weekend.

BeaveRun Schedule (http://www.racenasa.com/SCHEDULE_BEAVERUNSEPTEMBER.htm)

It looks like we are in for a bit of an interesting weekend. Group 3 will be running with Group 2 and and Group 4. Group 1 has their first two sessions by themselves each day but their third session they are on the track with Group 2.

I don't know how big the run groups will be but registration is still open for all groups.

Also, each session is scheduled to be 30 minutes. [:D]

[Black396]

Taking it back to the top ^^^^^

[Black396]

I emailed Lawerence about our car numbers and cc'ed everyone on the email with the latest email addresses I had for you.

Lawerence responded almost immediately and said we should be getting an email from them shortly.

The weather is still looking very good for Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

If you can't tell, I'm starting to get hyper! [;)] I'm looking forward to another great weekend! [:D]

[Ebein]

I emailed Lawerence about our car numbers and cc'ed everyone on the email with the latest email addresses I had for you.

Lawerence responded almost immediately and said we should be getting an email from them shortly.

The weather is still looking very good for Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

If you can't tell, I'm starting to get hyper! [;)] I'm looking forward to another great weekend! [:D]


Hopefully the weather will be as its forecast!
My camera mount should be in today or tommorrow,
So I'll be posting some video after the event.

Anyone care to list the HPDE 1 qualifications to move to
HPDE 2? So i know what to expect.

[C5inWV]

Check your directions again, Ralph. I downloaded directions from the BeaveRun website. They show exit 2 as the closest to the track. It takes you out on 18, but within a mile or so of the track.

I can't attach the map, so you'll have to follow the link from an earlier thread.

You can get there either way. I know you want to drive the twisty roads, but probably not with a trailer in tow. [:)]

[Black396]

Actually, I think Exit #2 and Exit 13 are the same exit. It looks like the Exit numbers were changed at some time, or Exit #2 from the Ohio line is located at mile marker 13.

FROM THE PA TURNPIKE
Mile -Instruction For Leg
0.00 Depart I-76 at Exit 13 (onto Ramp) .3 mi
0.30 Merge on to State Route 18 North .9 mi
1.20 At traffic light continue on SR 18N 54 yds
1.20 At traffic light continue on SR 18N .9 mi
2.10 Continue on SR 18N .7 mi
2.80 Turn LEFT onto Penndale Road .8 mi
3.60 Arrive at BeaveRun MotorSports ComPlex

[Akcelr8]

Actually, I think Exit #2 and Exit 13 are the same exit. It looks like the Exit numbers were changed at some time, or Exit #2 from the Ohio line is located at mile marker 13.

Exit 2 (at mile post 13) was changed to Exit 13 a few years back. They are the same. [:)]


{Edited by Black396 to repair the misaligned quote}

[Black396]

Anyone care to list the HPDE 1 qualifications to move to
HPDE 2? So i know what to expect.

Let me see if my log book has it. If not we can go over it Friday evening at dinner. There is a nice little place that is close to the motel and the track that I was thinking about.

[Ebein]

Anyone care to list the HPDE 1 qualifications to move to
HPDE 2? So i know what to expect.

Let me see if my log book has it. If not we can go over it Friday evening at dinner. There is a nice little place that is close to the motel and the track that I was thinking about.

If im not there tommorrow when you guys are ready to go.
Leave w/o me Im waiting on the camera mount to be delivered
its supposed to show up today and if it doesnt I'll be waiting
for it to show up friday. =/ Grr Mid-America Motorsports sending
it regular mail.

[Black396]

Actually there is quite a list of them. At first look they might be a little intimidating and if you try to conciously think about all of them you will probably become overwhelmed.

The #1 and most important is
listen to your instructor.
The #2 and next most important
communicate with your instructor.

He or she needs feedback that you understand what they are saying, 'yea', 'uh huh' doesn't mean 'I understand'.

Some of them are things that you normally do. Go through the list and identify them and file them away.

-Knows rules/procedures/format
-Aware of vechicle condition
-Proper seat and driving position
-Mirror positions correct
-Headrest position correct
-Seat belts snug
-Correct static hand position
-Observes pit lane starter
-Watches traffic when leaving pit
-Upshifts properly
-Downshifts properly
-Selects appropriate gear
-Correct clutch gear
-Observes engine redline
-Knows course layout
-Understands threshold/ABS brakiing
-Performs hard braking w/o lockup
-Corner entry speed correct
-Head and eyes level
-Looks into turn/past apex
-Smooth turn in
-Smooth turn out
-Correct hand technique
-No sawing steering wheel
-No driver body lean
-Throttle on before turn exit
-Checks mirrors often
-Signals/assists passing cars
-Knows normal instrument range
-Reads instruments
-Knows/observes flags and stations
-Observes corner workers
-Clips apexes consistently
-Knows largest possible radius
-Knows location of run-off spots
-Knows to drive off track
-Understands oversteer
-Understands understeer
-Observes pit entrance procedures
-Knows vehicle problem procedures
-Follows directions
-Responds to instructions
-Maintains correct car spacing
-Minimal open loop driving
-Is at ease on track

[janderson]

Got the one brake line replaced. Got an email from Mansier, does anyone remember what my NVCC autocross car number is? I think its 104, but I'm not 100% sure.

Also - he said you need long pants and long sleeved shirt to run.

Sugar-plums, gona have to go to the store tonight and get something.

See ya'll tomorrow at noon! [:D]

[Black396]

Got the one brake line replaced.

[B-)] Regular OEM hose? Any problems?

Got an email from Mansier, does anyone remember what my NVCC autocross car number is? I think its 104, but I'm not 100% sure.

I can see if I have any of the files left on my laptop at home this evening and find it. 104 sounds familar though.

Got the one brake line replaced. Got an email from Mansier...
Also - he said you need long pants and long sleeved shirt to run.

Sugar-plums, gona have to go to the store tonight and get something.


Long pants are a definite. Sometimes they don't require the long sleeve shirts but it is best to come prepared just in case.

[janderson]

Got the one brake line replaced.

[B-)] Regular OEM hose? Any problems?



Well its a raybestos brand hose. It will hold me until I can come up with the scratch for the braided lines. As far as I know they didn't have any problems putting it on, used a little shop over by work. Joe was booked. About 2 hours of labor all together.

Thanks for looking up the number, I 'm just gonna send them an email tomorrow before we leave that I'll use that as my car number.

I'll probably use painters tape this weekend and have someone make me some static cling numbers to use at other events.

[Ebein]

Got the one brake line replaced.

[B-)] Regular OEM hose? Any problems?



Well its a raybestos brand hose. It will hold me until I can come up with the scratch for the braided lines. As far as I know they didn't have any problems putting it on, used a little shop over by work. Joe was booked. About 2 hours of labor all together.

Thanks for looking up the number, I 'm just gonna send them an email tomorrow before we leave that I'll use that as my car number.

I'll probably use painters tape this weekend and have someone make me some static cling numbers to use at other events.


Do we need to bring numbering? Or is that something thats
going to be provided? ( i have no idea what number I am for this )

[Black396]

The registration form asked for up to 3 different number choices for your car. If you don't remember what number you asked for or didn't enter one don't worry about it.

1/2" wide painters tape works fine as long as you don't have a light blue car. On the other hand, you can always bring about six blank 8.5"x11" sheets of printer paper. I have a black magic marker and some 2" wide painters tape and we can afix the paper to the sides of the cars.

[Black396]

I can see if I have any of the files left on my laptop at home this evening and find it. 104 sounds familar though.

James Anderson, car #104, 1988 Medium Grey Metallic Coupe [;)]

[janderson]

James Anderson, car #104, 1988 Medium Grey Metallic Coupe [;)]

Cool, sent them the email. I'll pick up a roll of painters tape.
Anyone going - feel free to use it.

OBTW - when I registered I indicated I didn't have a car number preferance, Bill probably did the same thing. When I read the email it said numbers had been provide so I shot Mansier an email with a few other questions. They had not assigned me any number, Bill may have the same problem.

Bill, figure out a few favorite numbers and just mail them off to Mansier. He'll get back to you with which one to use.

Is it noon Friday yet????????

[Black396]

Is there anything that I've promised to bring? Now is a good time to remind me. Does everyone have a family radio or do I need to bring a couple?

Bill,
I think you said something about needing a Large or XL helmet?

This is a list of things to bring that Ralph put together and I added a few things.

TOOLS
TOOL BOX
COMBINATION WRENCHES
SOCKET SET
ELECTRIC SCREWDRIVER
C-CLAMPS
TORQUE WRENCH
RUBBER HAMMER
JACK/JACK STANDS
CARPET
RAGS/PAPER TOWELS
MOTOR OIL
BRAKE FLUID/BLEEDER KIT
SIPHON
DUCT TAPE
LUG WRENCH
PLASTIC TIES
WINDEX
SPRAY DETAILER
WORK GLOVES
FLASHLIGHT
TARP


SPARE PARTS
BRAKE PADS
HOSES

DRIVING EQUIPMENT
CAR KEYS
HELMET
DRIVING SUIT
DRIVING GLOVES
DRIVING SHOES
LONG SLEEVE SHIRT
SUN GLASSES
Driver's Log Book
Tech Sheet
Car Numbers

PERSONAL ITEMS
MONEY
Camera
SUNSCREEN/BUG SPRAY
HAT
SLEEPING BAG/PILLOW
MATTRESS PAD
CHAIR
WATER
COOLER
LANTERN
WINDOW SCREENS
PLASTIC TAPE
SWEATS/SHORTS
TOILETRIES
BATH TOWEL
ALARM CLOCK
ARMY KNIFE
RADIOS

OTHER ITEMS
Haynes Manual


Some of the things like the tools might be a little hard for you guys driving up but you get the idea. [B-)]

[Ebein]

Is there anything that I've promised to bring? Now is a good time to remind me.

Bill,
I think you said something about needing a Large or XL helmet?

Yep, ill need a helmet, cant think of anything else atm besides
the painters tape which James is going to get. Camera mount
still hasnt shown up...

[janderson]

I can't haul all that stuff [:((]
I got the essentials:
Motor Oil
AIr pump
Power Steering Fluid
Brake Fluid
old brake pads
Brake bleeder Kit

Can I assume that if we need them you or Ralph would be able to loan us any other tools? It would be real helpful because I'm supposed to stop in Inwwod on the way home on Monday and pick up a bunch of stuff from my daughter.

[Black396]

I can't haul all that stuff [:((]

Can I assume that if we need them you or Ralph would be able to loan us any other tools?

Absolutely! [B-)] and if we don't have it most of the people at these events are really great. If they have it, they'll lend it to you.

Just the essentials that you mentioned, your family radio, cell phone and other minor things are [B-)]

[Ebein]

I can't haul all that stuff [:((]

Can I assume that if we need them you or Ralph would be able to loan us any other tools?

Absolutely! [B-)] and if we don't have it most of the people at these events are really great. If they have it, they'll lend it to you.

Just the essentials that you mentioned, your family radio, cell phone and other minor things are [B-)]


Woot Camera Mount is here, gona pick up a radio tommorrow
before i head up to stirling.

[Black396]

Woot Camera Mount is here, gona pick up a radio tommorrow
before i head up to stirling.


[B-)] Glad it came on time. I've got extra family radios. You don't have to buy one unless you really want to.

{psssst, Not stirling, Tyson's} [;)] Too many things scheduled to start or end in Sterling already. [:D]

[Black396]

3 hours 19 minutes until departure time. [:D]

Actually I'll be leaving home at about 11:00am. Last minute call, anybody need me to bring anything extra? [:-?]