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AlohaC5

01-17-2006, 06:41 AM

I plan to visit Tony's Corvette in Gaithersburg, MD and Curry's Auto Serivce in Sterling, VA to discuss whethey they would host a NVCC Dyno Day for us.

The cost would include 3 pulls on the dyno with an 02 wideband analyzer (indicate your air/fuel ratio), which may between $75 and $90 per car - more cars lower cost. However, I need to come up with an estimate of how many would participate from our club to get accurate rates.

Do you know what a dyno is and what it can do for you?? A computerized engine dynamometer accurately measures torque and rpm and then can accurately calculate horsepower. Knowing the horsepower and torque gives the engine dyno operator or engine tuner a solid basis for making changes in the engine's tuning or to the engine itself. The chart you receive will look something like this:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mjhiggins/ECSDynoforC5.JPG

Tentative Date: 18 March. Please provide your name, year/model of Corvette and date preference if you have one. I figured this would be an excellent event after the 15 February Koons Shop Night.

Thanks, Mike

Name/Corvette/Max Price
(1) AlohaC5/'04 C5 383/$90
(2) wazzzup/'04 Z06/?
(3) Black396/'86 C4 396 or 04 Z06/$75
(4) LilRedCorvette/'94 or '89 C4/$75
(5) GentleBen/?/$90
(6) Ebein/05 Mustang/$75
(7) C5RCS/96 CE/?
(8)
(9)

wazzzup

01-17-2006, 11:49 AM

Mike,

The 4th of March is the Teen Driving school. [;)] Just a thought.

Black396

01-17-2006, 01:16 PM

I would be interested if it was set up for Mar 11th or the 18th and
$75 or less.

LilRedCorvette

01-17-2006, 04:10 PM

I would be interested if it was set up for Mar 11th or the 18th and $75 or less.

Yes, let's pick a date with no other events, trying to keep conflicting events to a minimum... [:)]

I really need a baseline on the '89 (if I ever get it back) but it would probably blow up on the dyno! [:O] [:))] [:((] [:-&]

If the '89 is still "sick" I could always use a re-pull of the '94 I suppose, we'll see...

GentleBen

01-17-2006, 08:41 PM

LilRedCorvette

01-18-2006, 07:25 AM

Unfortunately, I have to be in Tucson for my youngest son's wedding on the 11th and I would point out that the Waterside event is going on on the 25th in Hampton. Accordingly, I can only look at the 18th but I am somewhat flexible on cost - not to exceed $90.

Yes, we can't impose on Waterside, it's a big Virginia event...I'm considering going, will post the details later on.

My participation in the dyno with the '89 is iffy. The slave cylinder is on a national backorder (has been for months) and its arrival time is uncertain. [:(]

Ebein

01-18-2006, 07:56 PM

I'd be interested if 75$ or less, I'd love to get a baseline on the Stang before I start the mods.

C5RCS

01-21-2006, 12:36 AM

I am interested in doing dyno on my 96 Collector Edition.

- Chuck Shuman
1996 Collector Edition
Coupe LT-4

Red78L82

01-21-2006, 02:30 AM

I won't be able to do the dyno. But I'll bite, what's going on in Hampton on March 25th other than the "Celtic Women"?? [:D]

LilRedCorvette

01-21-2006, 05:30 AM

I won't be able to do the dyno. But I'll bite, what's going on in Hampton on March 25th other than the "Celtic Women"?? [:D]

I will put up details about Waterside when I have the chance. Just got back from being out of town... [:)]

Black396

01-22-2006, 03:38 AM

FWIW, there is also Excessive Motorsports in Manassas 703-331-1422. They have done a number of dyno days for the Northern Virginia Mustang Club and CrossRoads On-Line.

AlohaC5

01-22-2006, 04:57 AM

Thanks Mike. I will check with them first. Do you know what they charged the club in the past?

Excessive Motorsports
9207 Venture Ct.
Manasass Park, 20110
Tel. 703-331-1422
Website: http://www.excessivemotorsport.net
Dyno Pulls
$75.00 for three pulls - $25.00 extra for Air/Fuel

Black396

01-22-2006, 06:47 AM

Its been a couple of years since I was out there with the Mustang club. I want to say that it was $65 but I'm not positive.

The day I was out there with the NVMC it was an all day affair.

89x2

01-22-2006, 08:40 PM

well, if a Mustang shop is up for consideration, you may want to look into using Springfield Motorsport on Terminal Rd.

My brother (Saleen Mike) used them before and Jon and Wheat are both good fellas [B-)]

They charged something like 60 bucks for 3 pulls and another 15 for an air fuel ratio print out

The Air Fuel was cool, as it used a sniffer sensor - they found no need to add a bung to the exhaust [B-)]

They did a bunch of Corvettes too one day - treated the group VERY well! [B-)]

Black396

01-22-2006, 08:58 PM

89x2

01-22-2006, 09:39 PM

They did a bunch of Corvettes too one day - treated the group VERY well! [B-)]

Interesting! They told me NO 'vettes when I went there a couple of years ago. AND their atitude was anything but pleasant.

Of course that was before they got such a sorry reputation with a lot of the local Mustang crowd.

Wheat is a very nice fella and is actually a Corvette enthusiast at heart [B-)]

The price was right and location fairly central and easy on/off @ the Newington 7100 exit off 95

Terminal Rd. is where they are at - again, Nice guys - Maybe that was because of my brother [:-/]

Black396

01-23-2006, 07:02 PM

Just got word that Excessive will do:

about 3 or 4 hrs for 7-8 cars.
2 pulls with a/f : $50

C6FirstVette

01-23-2006, 08:15 PM

Did you contact Curry's? The "normally" will do 3 pulls for $70...If you would like assistance in setting this set up (event) I can cover getting Matt Curry to give us a proposal... just an offer obviously your call
Michael

GentleBen

01-24-2006, 02:10 AM

Curry's sounds good to me.

Michael, if we are all at Curry's think we ought to invite some of the PCA reps? After all, you had Mr. Blu run when they were doing their dyno pulls - and smoked them as I recall! [:))]

Black396

01-24-2006, 03:19 AM

Did you contact Curry's? The "normally" will do 3 pulls for $70

That's with the A/F sniffer or without?

AlohaC5

01-24-2006, 06:30 AM

Personally - I would prefer a Dyno Jet rather than a Mustang Dyno [No - not the type of car :-)] for this event. Do you know which type of dyno machine these shops use? I appreciate everyone's help. If you have a friend/contact at Curry's or Excessive that can give us a good deal - that would be great. Both prices are reasonable for the services offered.

C6FirstVette

01-24-2006, 11:55 AM

Curry's is a Eddy Current Mustang Dyno... Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, and Ferrari clubs all have there dyno shoot outs there...
Michael

AlohaC5

01-24-2006, 02:24 PM

Michael, if Curry's can do 3 pulls with A/F for $70 - lets lock it in for 18 March. This is a GREAT deal! I hope we get more members to sign-up; however, I think we already have the requisite number to obtain this special price. We should discuss this opportunity at the next Club Meeting. Thanks!

Name/Corvette
(1) AlohaC5/'04 C5 383
(2) c2.washington/'02 Z06
(3) Black396/'86 C4 396 or 04 Z06
(4) LilRedCorvette/'94 or '89 C4
(5) GentleBen/?/
(6) Ebein/05 Mustang
(7) C5RCS/96 CE
(8) C6FirstVette/05 C6
(9) 89x2
(10)

Curry's is a Eddy Current Mustang Dyno... Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, and Ferrari clubs all have there dyno shoot outs there...
Michael

wazzzup

01-24-2006, 02:37 PM

c2.washington_

01-24-2006, 10:30 PM

I'm interested, price allowing. I'd also prefer DynoJet.

MY04CE

01-26-2006, 03:25 PM

Please add me to your list for March 18th. I have a 2004 w/Auto. Thanks. [:)]

89x2

01-27-2006, 12:34 AM

- lets lock it in for 18 March.

Name/Corvette
(9) 89x2

Sorry, I will have to say with regrets that my March is booked solid [:O]

I will have to do this some other time [#-o]

Jstyle

01-27-2006, 10:15 PM

C6FirstVette

01-28-2006, 02:04 PM

I will see what I can do on price and include 'sniffer'... but there seems to be in this thread a decision needed ... DynoJet or Mustang... makes no diff to me. And Ben...sure we can invite the PCA boys but I don't know if they want to come out and play [;)]
Michael

wazzzup

01-28-2006, 02:45 PM

Mike,

Unfortunately I won't be around that weekend. I will be down in VA Beach for a marathon. I'm trying to qualify for Boston, and it's going to be Erica's first marathon. I've got a lot of time vested in her training so I can't miss this one. [:)] However... if you need anything just let me know. [:)]

Well I will see you there then I don't think I can get much below a 3:20 but I ran a 3:30 in phoenix 2 weeks back. Let me know how to find you there so I can run into some one from the home town.

Cool! [B-)] I'm actually hoping to run a 3:10 or faster, but I have two things going against me on that. 1) I'm over 40. 2) I'm over 200 lbs. [;)] But hey, if I can do 52.52 miles in 8 hours flat I still stand a chance! [:D]

wazzzup

01-28-2006, 02:46 PM

Sorry! Didn't mean to highjack your thread Mike! [:D]

Black396

01-28-2006, 06:13 PM

DynoJet or Mustang... makes no diff to me. And Ben...sure we can invite the PCA boys but I don't know if they want to come out and play [;)]
Michael

I like the DynoJet simply because that's what most of the local ones are. I'm just hoping to get a baseline in case I decide to ever do any mods or want to see what the difference is after putting some miles on it.

AlohaC5

01-29-2006, 05:42 AM

Lets go with the DynoJet for this event if we can find a shop that can provide one on that date with A/F for a good deal. What do you guys think about Tony's Corvette in Gaithersburg, MD? He recently conducted a Dyno Day for members on the Corvette Forum. My previous dyno's were done on DynoJets so using this type would help me baseline my mods, etc. I will contact him on Monday.

Tony's Corvette Shop
7500 Rickenbacker Drive
Gaithersburg, Maryland 20879
301.987.0565
http://www.tonyscorvetteshop.com/

Name/Corvette
(1) AlohaC5/'04 C5 383
(2) c2.washington/'02 Z06
(3) Black396/'04 Z06
(4) LilRedCorvette/'94 C4
(5) GentleBen/?/
(6) Ebein/'05 Mustang
(7) C5RCS/'96 CE
(8) C6FirstVette/'05 C6
(9) MY04CE/'04 C5
(10)

We need a member with a new Z06 to participate!

wazzzup

01-29-2006, 02:38 PM

Mike,

You and I need to hook up! I have some info for you on a new dyno in town that would like to work with us (Maybe at a discount rate!) Send me an e-mail and I'll answer back on Tuesday night.

George

GentleBen

01-31-2006, 02:33 AM

Well, I agree with the idea of using baseline data, but since I have both Mustang and DynoJet data from which to work, either system is acceptable to me.

Of course, Curry's in Sterling is a lot closer to me than Gaithersburg is so that has vote at the present time. The non-negotiable point for me is the date - the only weekend I have available in March is the 18th so. for me, its that date or I can't play. I do understand that I am not the only guy and I certainly am not the one making decisions but thought I would add my two cents.

Black396

01-31-2006, 03:06 AM

I don't care, Tony's is fine I guess. I've been wanting to check them out anyway. The 18th is also the only day I have free.

Its going to be a busy season this year.

LilRedCorvette

01-31-2006, 04:01 PM

Please finalize the details so that I may officially add it to the event calendar. Thanks! [:)]

AlohaC5

01-31-2006, 04:57 PM

Please finalize the details so that I may officially add it to the event calendar. Thanks! [:)]

Team, IMO Tonys Corvette shop is the PREMIER place to have our vettes dynoed given the state of the art facility he has there, which includes a DynoJet! Its impressive. We need a minimum of 8 participants ($640) as they have a $600 group minimum for their Dyno Day, which is fair. Please check to ensure you have the 02 bungs in your exhaust system (prior to the catalytic converts) if you want an A/F check as well. If you're missing them - perhaps they can be added during the Koons Shop Night in February (check with Joe Malo).

I would like to lock in this date and location for this event tomorrow afternoon. Please provide me the information requested below if you plan to attend. Thanks, Mike

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Keith Green [mailto:keith@tonyscorvettes.com]
Sent: Tue 1/31/2006 9:06 AM
To: Higgins, Mike
Subject: Dyno Day at Tonys Corvette Shop

Good morning,

Thanks for the contact for the dyno day. Yes, we can do it on the 18th of March. The cost of $80 per car is OK, but I must charge a minimum of $600 regardless of how many cars show. With 10 cars to run, it will be necessary to start early, like 8:30 am, in order to get them all on the dyno. Usually, 2 runs are sufficient as we will generally overlap the results on each run as we are highly calibrated and accurate. We will also try to provide a plasma screen display of the results as they happen for the audience to see!!

Your members must have "bungs" in their exhaust systems prior to the catalytic converters in order to read air fuel ratios. We will not have time to install those the day of the runs. If anyone needs them installed, they should make an appointment with me before and we can install them. I will only rea! d air fuel on cars running unleaded fuel, no racing fuels!

Please provide me a list of cars that will be attending. I will need the following information ahead of time to have everything set up to save us time on dyno day.

Owner Name, address, phone #
VIN Number
Trans: Auto or Six Speed
Rear Axle Ratio

Note: Automatics will be dyno'd by "inertia" as we will not have time to do transmission set-ups.

Please let me know if this is a go, and get me the info a couple weeks prior to the dyno day.

We look forward to having you here and doing the testing in our laboratory environment.

Keith
Tonys Corvette Shop

Black396

01-31-2006, 06:31 PM

Okay, I'm in.

Mike Sarver
2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
6-speed
M12 (Z06) *
1st: 2.97
2nd: 2.07
3rd: 1.43
4th 1.00
5th: 0.84
6th: 0.56

rear end ratio: 3.54s

*He should only need to know which gear is 1:1 but just in case

I'll send you a PM with the VIN when I get home

AlohaC5

01-31-2006, 06:56 PM

Laurie - please add this event to the NVCC event list so people can sign up. Must have at least 8 cars to hold the event since the shop requires a $600 club cost minimum.

What: NVCC Dyno Day
Where: Tony's Corvettes in Gaithersburg, MD
When: 18 March at 0830 hours
Cost: $80 per car for 2 x Dyno Pulls and A/F check (02 Bung Req.)
Shop Website: http://www.tonyscorvetteshop.com/

Information Required to submit to shop:

Owner Name, address, phone #
VIN Number
Trans: Auto or Six Speed
Rear Axle Ratio

Thanks, Mike

MY04CE

01-31-2006, 08:06 PM

I'm still in for the Dyno Day at Tony's on Mar 18. [:)]

2004 CE Convertible
Arthur Baer
8861 Applecross LAne
703-451-3944
VIN #1G1YY32G145110242
Auto
3.15

Black396

01-31-2006, 10:04 PM

Mike,
I sent you an email and a PM with the info. I may be a little paranoid but I don't like posting the VIN on an open forum.

AlohaC5

01-31-2006, 10:55 PM

I got it. Thanks, Mike - That makes 3 of us. Keith at Tony's Corvette placed on our their calendar! Everyone - keep the information coming.

Mike,
I sent you an email and a PM with the info. I may be a little paranoid but I don't like posting the VIN on an open forum.

LilRedCorvette

02-01-2006, 05:35 AM

Laurie - please add this event to the NVCC event list so people can sign up. Must have at least 8 cars to hold the event since the shop requires a $600 club cost minimum.

Thanks, Mike

Event added to the website calendar, see here:

NVCC Dyno Day (http://www.nvcorvetteclub.com/nvcc/events/eventView.do?mode=view&id=231)

I referred everyone to this thread for discussion, as well as requested that club members who wish to participate email you the required info requested by the shop.