View Full Version : Shop Night (in lieu of GBM) 28 Sep 05
kedvesh
09-23-2005, 02:54 PM
REF: the event post @ http://www.nvcorvetteclub.com/nvcc/events/eventView.do?mode=view&id=180
Would I be able to and would someone be there who could show me how to rebuild C5 brake calipers (F & R)? By virtue of it being @ Koons, I assume the appropriate tools would be available.
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C5inWV
09-24-2005, 02:48 AM
Someone should be able to help you at the shop. You can sign out tools. Do you really need to rebuild your calipers? What do they need?
wazzzup
09-24-2005, 11:03 AM
If you have the parts you can do it, and I'm sure someone would help. Just remember though that a lot of the people are going to be teching their cars that night also. I've got several things that I need to do also. Tag Team?
kedvesh
09-26-2005, 11:43 AM
Do you really need to rebuild your calipers? What do they need?
I replaced my "older", stock calipers last year w/ some red Z06-ers. The stock calipers lost their piston boots/seals after a few track days. Thought I might want to replaces the aluminum pistons w/ stainless steel ones while I'm at it.
kedvesh
09-26-2005, 11:45 AM
If you have the parts you can do it, and I'm sure someone would help. Just remember though that a lot of the people are going to be teching their cars that night also. I've got several things that I need to do also. Tag Team?
Sure...if I can make it there and my parts come in. Thing is - The USAF has all of a sudden put me down in the Control Center for 12s at night this week and I don't know if I can make it to mod night. I'll find out more tomorrow (today)...hopefully.
wazzzup
09-26-2005, 02:39 PM
I know the feeling with all those funky hours! I get put into them myself. [:-B] [X-(]
Jstyle
09-26-2005, 11:23 PM
Would I be able to change my clutch and flywheel I am swapping in a LS7 Clutch and LS2 flywheel. The only thing is I have never done it before but I have changed just about every other part on this type of car.
Black396
09-26-2005, 11:36 PM
I don't think you could get that done in a 3 hour shop night.
wazzzup
09-27-2005, 12:08 AM
Yea, that one might be pushing it! [:))]
kedvesh
09-27-2005, 04:18 AM
Yea, that one might be pushing it! [:))]
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badaz06
09-27-2005, 01:19 PM
Would I be able to change my clutch and flywheel I am swapping in a LS7 Clutch and LS2 flywheel. The only thing is I have never done it before but I have changed just about every other part on this type of car.
I talked to Joe about this last night...he said that even with all the tools laid out, he couldn't accomplish this. In the C5, replacing this means taking out the whole bottom end of the car,, tranny, diff, gas tank, exaust...
c2.washington_
09-27-2005, 03:44 PM
I'm replacing my tunnel plate. From what I gather, the process is pretty simple, dropping the exhaust at the xpipe, unbolting the old tunnel plate and bolting up the new one, then bolting up the exhaust again. I haven't done much of anything to the car myself and I'm no mechanic. I'm happy to do the hands on, but I have no idea what to remove and what not to. I'd really hate to have the engine land on the shop floor with a clunk. [#-o]
ljd51
09-27-2005, 04:11 PM
I'm replacing my tunnel plate. From what I gather, the process is pretty simple, dropping the exhaust at the xpipe, unbolting the old tunnel plate and bolting up the new one, then bolting up the exhaust again. I haven't done much of anything to the car myself and I'm no mechanic. I'm happy to do the hands on, but I have no idea what to remove and what not to. I'd really hate to have the engine land on the shop floor with a clunk. [#-o]
Here are instructions from Elite Engineering on installing the Tunnel Plate (http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/Install-instructions-Tunnel-Plate.html) on a C5 and C6.
HTH
wazzzup
09-28-2005, 02:36 PM
OK boys & girls! Who's coming up tonight! [:D]
Black396
09-28-2005, 04:27 PM
OK boys & girls! Who's coming up tonight! [:D]
I'll be there.
I want to replace the 396 with the 406TT.
ljd51
09-28-2005, 04:34 PM
OK boys & girls! Who's coming up tonight! [:D]
I will be coming tonite as a first time visitor... [:D]
glaing
09-28-2005, 05:20 PM
OK boys & girls! Who's coming up tonight! [:D]
I will be coming tonite as a first time visitor... [:D]
ditto, no projects planned just maybe have some folks try and identify what PO (previous owners) did by way of mods. And kinda get an idea of any major things I'd need to do if I wanted to do an HPDE next year.
g-man aka George Laing
OK boys & girls! Who's coming up tonight! [:D]
I'll be there. Im planning on routine maintenance, oil, plugs, filters, pvc, etc., rotate tires, and replace the hood latch cable. From there we'll see - probably plan some winter projects. I also need to scope an exhaust leak.
Anyone who wants to work on an old L-48 is more than welcome to help out, watch, [:))] ...
See yall tonight.
kedvesh
09-28-2005, 06:28 PM
OK boys & girls! Who's coming up tonight! [:D]
IF...that's if I can make it (on call tonight), I'm going to forget about doing anything such as a caliper rebuild and will opt for changing out my front rotors. (Lots of heat stress cracks in dem dare ro-tors.)
LilRedCorvette
09-28-2005, 06:48 PM
I'll be there pre-teching, possibly swapping brake pads, pending examination of the current ones. Will need some help with this; I am not at all against getting dirty (as an artist I get pretty messy all the time) but I am arm/wrist strength-challenged.
c2.washington_
09-28-2005, 07:02 PM
I'll be there, but I'm not sure if I have the expertise to install the tunnel plate. When it comes to mechanical stuff, I'm easily intimidated. I'll bring the tunnel plate just in case I'm feeling brave. Thanks for the directions also!
Black396
09-28-2005, 07:11 PM
I should have time to lend a hand here or there as may be needed.
Help the Starving ---- I'll work for 93 octane [:))]
[B-)]
ljd51
09-28-2005, 08:03 PM
I'll be there, but I'm not sure if I have the expertise to install the tunnel plate. When it comes to mechanical stuff, I'm easily intimidated. I'll bring the tunnel plate just in case I'm feeling brave. Thanks for the directions also!
Did you see my previous post with installation instructions?
I will lend a hand as I want to do this myself at the next shop night (if I am accepted as a member).
c2.washington_
09-28-2005, 08:41 PM
I'll be there, but I'm not sure if I have the expertise to install the tunnel plate. When it comes to mechanical stuff, I'm easily intimidated. I'll bring the tunnel plate just in case I'm feeling brave. Thanks for the directions also!
Did you see my previous post with installation instructions?
I will lend a hand as I want to do this myself at the next shop night (if I am accepted as a member).
Yes, I did see your previous post, hence the "Thanks for the directions also!" part. I'm glad you're willing to help as my first reaction to those directions were "there's no way that I'm qualified to do that!".
glaing
09-28-2005, 09:04 PM
Not being too familiar with Koon's, I was wondering, which side is the "Garage" side RE: the calendar notice for Shop Night? Is it near where the ramp to the roof parking lot is?
Thanks,
G
LilRedCorvette
09-28-2005, 09:32 PM
Not being too familiar with Koon's, I was wondering, which side is the "Garage" side RE: the calendar notice for Shop Night? Is it near where the ramp to the roof parking lot is?
Thanks,
G
Nope. That's the service bay side. Garage side is the opposite side (faces Route 123). [:D]
glaing
09-28-2005, 09:35 PM
Not being too familiar with Koon's, I was wondering, which side is the "Garage" side RE: the calendar notice for Shop Night? Is it near where the ramp to the roof parking lot is?
Thanks,
G
Nope. That's the service bay side. Garage side is the opposite side (faces Route 123). [:D]
Thanks. I felt really stupid the first time I drove around Koons twice looking for the ramp on meeting night.
G
Black396
09-29-2005, 02:26 PM
Shop Night appeared to be very successful last night. I'm not sure how many people showed up but it looked like we had over 20 cars.
Much thanks to Joe Malo for staying so late and helping everyone out.
It was great meeting some of the new folks that I've "conversed" with here on the forum and hope to see you at more events in the future.
Very NICE 1995 George! ...and thanks for the help last night.
glaing
09-29-2005, 02:44 PM
Shop Night appeared to be very successful last night. I'm not sure how many people showed up but it looked like we had over 20 cars.
Much thanks to Joe Malo for staying so late and helping everyone out.
It was great meeting some of the new folks that I've "conversed" with here on the forum and hope to see you at more events in the future.
Very NICE 1995 George! ...and thanks for the help last night.
No! THANK YOU for all the advice (and for the compliment) and showing me how to change Lauries brakes. It's sure is a lot safer to learn on someone elses Vette [:))]
It was a blast. Next time I'll definitley have some project to do and actually get 'er up on the lift and take a good look underneath. Maybe I'll get around to that colant drain/fill.
l8r
g-man
c2.washington_
09-29-2005, 03:44 PM
I think there were probably more than 20 cars, very much a success. A good deal of those cars were pre-tech for Spook, but I'd guestimate about 10 cars or so made it onto lifts. [=D>]
I would highly recommend the purchase of a tunnel plate to everyone, not just racers. I noticed the handling difference immediately when pulling out onto 123. You'll be suprised at the change in handling dynamics. I haven't experienced any heat abatement, but I haven't driven for more than 15 minutes in it and it takes about 45 minutes before I notice the tunnel is hot.
I want to thank John for installing the plate for me (ok, I helped a little), and Joe for teaching both of us about the exhaust stage and lending us tools that John didn't have. [B-)]
Of course, my Corsa x-pipe is due to arrive today.. [X-(]
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LilRedCorvette
09-29-2005, 03:50 PM
Agree with all that has been said. Thanks to all who gave their opinions and help on LilRed. I enjoyed learning and was thrilled to be able to do some stuff, with guidance.
Yes-yes... Thanks to everyone for all the help assistance and guidance provided last night; especially Joe. (The poor guy runs around trying to help everyone while getting pulled in every other direction.) Many thanks to you Joe! [=D>]
Work has kept me exceptionally busy this year and last night provided me with the opportunity to finally hit all my -spring- projects. Ugh... But it was great to finally get all the tune and lube items done. I swear the car runs ten times better now than it did driving up yesterday - no more anemic Vette. [:D]
I'm sure I'll have another project for the next time, but if I don't I'm gonna come just to help anyone interested in assistance.
Until then... [:)>-]
ljd51
09-29-2005, 04:15 PM
I think there were probably more than 20 cars, very much a success. A good deal of those cars were pre-tech for Spook, but I'd guestimate about 10 cars or so made it onto lifts. [=D>]
It was great to attend my first NVCC meeting and to meet everyone. I will be at Spook as a spectator (and photographer if I can link up with Chuck who left before I found out who to talk to) and maybe next year I will be there as a worker.
I would highly recommend the purchase of a tunnel plate to everyone, not just racers. I noticed the handling difference immediately when pulling out onto 123. You'll be suprised at the change in handling dynamics. I haven't experienced any heat abatement, but I haven't driven for more than 15 minutes in it and it takes about 45 minutes before I notice the tunnel is hot.
I will definitely be getting myself a TP...just have to wait for the next shop night to install it. [:)]
I want to thank John for installing the plate for me (ok, I helped a little), and Joe for teaching both of us about the exhaust stage and lending us tools that John didn't have. [B-)]
Sorry about breaking the exhaust stud...we could have the install completed in an hour if hadn't been for that...but we did learn how to extract it (thanks Joe for the advice on using visegrips). When the time comes to do mine, we switch roles.
See everyone on Saturday morning...
vettnv
09-29-2005, 08:58 PM
[=D>] I would like to also add my thanks to Joe and the club member I borrow tools from. My first shop night was pretty cool. I almost didn't know how to work on my car standing under it. I'm normally on my back with a couple of inches of space to move around in.
ljd51
09-30-2005, 01:22 AM
[=D>] I would like to also add my thanks to Joe and the club member I borrow tools from.
You are welcome...and as I said last night...you have a very nice ride... [:)]
Patracer
09-30-2005, 04:34 AM
The shop night was great. I did not have to work on my car, but did get the tech for spook completed. [#-o] Thanks for the advice on where to get the fire extinguisher, now I just have to mount it.
I would like to find out more about the tunnel plate, does it help with the heat build up? [:-/]
Pat
c2.washington_
09-30-2005, 04:53 PM
The tunnel plate has two distinct advantages. First, it prevents heat transfer from the exhaust through the tunnel into the interior. After having the plate in for a few days, I've been able to confirm that the new plate blocks heat transfer (after a 2 hour drive the tunnel was no warmer than when I began). Second, the plate significantly stiffens the chassis of the c5 and c6. I experienced an dramatic difference in the dynamics of the car after the plate was installed, expecially during transitions. The tunnel plate provides a huge handling advantage for autocrossers as it stiffens the only significant flex point in the chassis from the factory, the tunnel area. There are a few plates on the market, but I believe the best one is from THELAPD.COM. Not only is it 3/8" aircraft grade hardened aluminum, but it's triple bonded with a ceramic coating to increase it's heat resistance. The plate does everything that THELAPD says it does. Here's a quote from them:
The C5 is an amazing accomplishment ... There is one area however that was in need of improvement to further stiffen the frame and to decrease the amount of torsional flex that was present. The CFS-02B is fully computer designed and CNC machined to our exact specifications. The panel consists of aircraft grade 6061- T6 aluminum @ 3/8" thick. With this material, we have achieved an increase in torsional rigidity of over 1,800 percent compared to the stock panel yet [it] weighs just 6 lbs more!! To address the issue of heat, we applied a high temperature ceramic coating on BOTH sides of the panel ... We have measured a decrease in the interior temperature on the center tunnel of over 40 degrees Fahrenheit compared to the stock panel.
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